Gene Robinson is an epic man.
I’m just saying, when Judas kissed Jesus, Jesus kissed back.
There are over 500 statues and paintings of a Black Virgin Mary and Baby Jesus in churches in Europe. There are more scattered throughout the world. WHY IS THAT? DO THESE BLACK IMAGES OF MARY AND JESUS APPEAR IN THE BLACK CHURCH? HMMMM.
latin americas got some black jesus’ too…hmmm, indeed…
Well, there’s actually a whole bunch of reasons for the origin of the Black Mary. Some are mundane and relate to the material used for the icons and how over time they turned black through contact and oxidation. In some cases it was an intentional choice, to reflect her Middle Eastern nationality. Finally, more recent versions of the Black Mary (over the past two hundred+ years) she is a reflection of Black Christianity. And she does, actually, appear in a lot of places that either were sites of Black Enslavement (as in plantation regions, “training” stations, and the like) as a reflection of Black theology.
At one point it was very common, too, to use prayer cards (very Catholic in origination, where you get a laminated card of your patron Saint, or theologian in some cases, with a hymn or prayer associated with them and use it as a meditative icon) of the Black Mary as a replacement or stand in for (I haven’t checked the source on this in a while, but I think Ezili is the lwa I’m thinking of) one of the spirits.
Alternately, Polish Catholics use the Black Mary as a patron of sorts after the “appearance” of her at Częstochowa.
My point simply being, she is used in a lot of places, for a lot of reasons. The only reason she’s not more prevalent is that generally the Catholic church (with whom veneration of Mary is most associated) is really strict about what they considered “canon” representations of the Saints and Holy Family. While Mary is venerated in other Christian denominations, she’s usually not revered to the same extent or as explicitly as within Catholicism. That being the case, the predominantly white Catholic tradition tends to hold sway in most churches.
Yeah. I hate hate hate how much tumblr is all anti Christian. It pisses me off so much! People act like Christians are the worst people in the world and that we’re all the same! There are always some crazy people in a group but that doesn’t mean they speak for us as a whole!
i think Christians have privilege similar to white privilege in that you are the majority. the few people online that “bash” you are just that - a few people online. the general public in the US will accept anything Christians do and designate it an isolated incident completely removed from religion. Muslims, Sikhs, or those that practice indigenous religions are not afforded this privilege. and when there are atrocious things being done by Christians, other Christians (especially those online) are silent about it. how many time have any Christians on here spoken about the absurd amount of DESTRUCTION Christian missionaries have done in other parts of the world? i have yet to see any.
so the idea that anything in this world is anti-christian (with the exception of small pocket of atheists/agnostics…whose meet-ups are limited to online forums…) sounds like an attempt at assuming victimhood when no such position exists.
RE: Christians taking on the mantle of victimization
YES !!I did not comment when it came on my dash, because if christian want to claim victimhood then they need to claim the disturbing amount of savegery committed by their denomination. The shit they do down here in Haiti.
I went to catholic school who worship whiteness la Veille France ( old royalist France) and They did everything to purge the Haitianness out of us … th ebeating the colorism, also they forbade us from speaking creole in school .. you were punished if some of nuns did not agree. It was much worst in my mother’s time, because the preist and nuns were white and racist as fuck..
another thing one school in particular catholic school did not take in dark black girls .. if they did you best beleive those kids had to be recommended by a white christian lady .. nope in this school you had to be light and damn near white to get in How very Christian !!
also White Christian came here and bought huge swaths of lands displacing peasants who farmed.. yeah excuse me cry me a river folks.
now we have Neo missionaries who have come to this country to exploit and save poor darkies. and adopt a bunch of black kids .. so excuse me Christianity for oppressing you .. so fucking sorry.
ICTC. That’s the organization I’m getting my doula training through.
Oh, stop. Rape exception? Really? We’re going there? Please explain, because no one ever has, why an embryo/fetus conceived by rape is less valuable to you than one conceived by consensual sex. Because if this isreally all about the life of the fetus, then the circumstances of conception shouldn’t matter. But see, what I’m getting from you, and every other “pro-life” hypocrite who thinks there should be exceptions for rape and incest, is that what you’re really interested in is making sure people who have sex pay for it, or “do the time,” as you so charmingly put it. And that’s pretty shitty, don’t you think?
So please, explain. Why are some pregnancies less worth “saving” to you?
I never said this was all about the life of the fetus. My statement was actually centered around the woman and the choice. It is my belief that when an individual makes a choice then they are responsible for that choice and I don’t at all believe that you can forego the natural responsibility of a pregnancy that you put yourself in a position to have by means of abortion.
Now on rape, it is an entirely different story. The choice factor is removed. I believe that there are a variety of exceptions to be made in this case, pending the type and circumstances of the rape. For instance, I don’t believe a college girl who gets wasted at a bar and goes heals to Jesus with the man next to her should receive the same considerations as the woman who got beaten down and forcefully raped on the street…
However, my statement itself was directed at conception that takes place by means outside of rape and my personal beliefs on justification of abortion because of rape are totally different.
What’s up with the screenshot, instead of reblogging?
Abortion is just as much taking responsibility as carrying a pregnancy to term. When a person gets pregnant unintentionally, they weigh their options, assess the situation, and try to make the best decision for themselves. If they don’t think they can afford a pregnancy/birth/baby along with everything else (which, more often than not, includes other children), or they don’t think they can take care of a child, or they know that they cannot physically or mentally bear a pregnancy, they know that better than you or anyone else. It’s absolutely none of your business, and it’s extremely arrogant to think that you know what’s best for complete strangers.
As for the qualifying rape thing, that’s just disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself. It’s attitudes like yours that make it so unimaginably hard for rape victims to understand, come to terms with, and get help for what happened. That someone has to be beaten by a complete stranger for you to bestow upon it the title of an “acceptable” rape is abhorrent, and that you apparently call yourself a Christian is laughable.
It’s truly disturbing to read this stuff on a blog filled with God and Jesus and hope and faith and love. It’s a very ugly underside.
“Oh, those stupid modern ideas of feminism and gender equality! Gawd does it all sooooooo much better!”
I hate to break it to her but her old self was right, patriarchy does hurt the Christian community. Not all Christian women want to be mothers and wives. Telling them the only thing God has for them is to be mothers and wives is fucking problematic. If you want to be a mother and a wife, great! More power to you. If you are privileged enough to be a stay at home mom and that is what you want, than great. Not all women (including Christian women!) want to be married or mothers. Not all Christian women are straight or cis. So yes, patriarchy hurts women whether or not you personally want to be a mother.
Let’s defend biblical marriage! …wait…
This was submitted by an anonymous user, so if anyone knows the source, feel free to let me know. I haven’t the original source yet.
and he loved hanging out w sex workers and indigents as he was an indigent himself lol
does that sound like the average modern day “christian” values to anyone?